Discography

TURNING POINT were probably your favorite band’s favorite band at one point, but with their records long out of print and their remarkable live shows tucked into memory, you might never know. That’s why we’ve banded together this 39-song discography that collects all of TURNING POINT’S recorded output, bootlegs, live shows, and compilation material onto one compact disc. If you were there, you’ll probably throw on your hoodie and dance around your bedroom like the good ol’ days. If you weren’t, you’ll probably wish you were.

1. Behind This Wall
2. Thursday
3. Anxiety Asking
4. Broken
5. Before The Dawn
6. Running in Place
7. Guidance
8. Face Up
9. Turn It Around
10. Shadow of Lies
11. Life Goes On
12. Prophecy
13. Descent
14. Growing Stronger
15. Get it Back
16. Feeding the Fire
17. Insecurity
18. My Turn to Win
19. To Lose
20. The Few and the Proud
21. Empty Promises
22. Never Again
23. Over the Line
24. Turning Point
25. To Lose
26. Face Up
27. Never Again
28. Behind My Back
29. Turning Point
30. Curtain Falls
31. Empty Promises
32. Growing Stronger
33. Down
34. Hollow Inside
35. Unexpressed
36. Undertow
37. Will to Speak
38. Watching it Fall

Skip: Vocals
Jay: Guitar
Nick: Bass
Ken: Drums

Steve: 2nd Guitar (Tracks 17, 19-24, 37, 38)

Released May 2000

Tracks 1-3 Originally released on Temperance Records Turning Point/No Escape
Split 7″ (Temperance)
Recorded February 1991 at Why Me?, NJ
Track 4 Originally released on Temperance Records “Rebuilding” Compilation
7″
Recorded August 1990 at Why Me?, NJ
Tracks 5-16 Originally released as the “It’s Always Darkest Before the Dawn”
LP/CD/CASS on New Age Records
Recorded January 12, 13, 15 1990 at Why Me?, NJ
Track 17 Originally released on Irate Records “Forever” Compilation 7″
Recorded Spring 1989 at Why Me?, NJ
Track 18 Originally released on New Age Records “Words to Live By, Words to
Die For” Compilation 7″
Recorded Fall 1989 at Bill Cribbin Studios, NJ
Tracks 19-24 Originally released as the “Turning Point” 7″ on Hi-Impact
Records
Recorded December 3, 1988 at Audio Plus, NJ
Tracks 25-32 Originally released as the Turning Point Demo Cassette
Recorded July-August 1988 at Bill Cribbin Studios, NJ
Tracks 33-36 Previously unreleased material from a NYC radio show in 1991
Tracks 37-38 Previously unreleased material from a live show at The Anthrax
in Norwalk, CT 1990

Remastered by Alan Douches at West West Side, NJ
Layout by Jeremy Dean
Photos by: Jeff Ladd, Justin Moulder, Tim Owen, Turning Point, Steve
Silvers, Ethan Gladding, Darren Walters, Dave Grubb, Sue Gendler

Discography

TURNING POINT were probably your favorite band’s favorite band at one point, but with their records long out of print and their remarkable live shows tucked into memory, you might never know. That’s why we’ve banded together this 39-song discography that collects all of TURNING POINT’S recorded output, bootlegs, live shows, and compilation material onto one compact disc. If you were there, you’ll probably throw on your hoodie and dance around your bedroom like the good ol’ days. If you weren’t, you’ll probably wish you were.

Skip: Vocals
Jay: Guitar
Nick: Bass
Ken: Drums

Steve: 2nd Guitar (Tracks 17, 19-24, 37, 38)

Released May 2000

Tracks 1-3 Originally released on Temperance Records Turning Point/No Escape
Split 7" (Temperance)
Recorded February 1991 at Why Me?, NJ
Track 4 Originally released on Temperance Records "Rebuilding" Compilation
7"
Recorded August 1990 at Why Me?, NJ
Tracks 5-16 Originally released as the "It’s Always Darkest Before the Dawn"
LP/CD/CASS on New Age Records
Recorded January 12, 13, 15 1990 at Why Me?, NJ
Track 17 Originally released on Irate Records "Forever" Compilation 7"
Recorded Spring 1989 at Why Me?, NJ
Track 18 Originally released on New Age Records "Words to Live By, Words to
Die For" Compilation 7"
Recorded Fall 1989 at Bill Cribbin Studios, NJ
Tracks 19-24 Originally released as the "Turning Point" 7" on Hi-Impact
Records
Recorded December 3, 1988 at Audio Plus, NJ
Tracks 25-32 Originally released as the Turning Point Demo Cassette
Recorded July-August 1988 at Bill Cribbin Studios, NJ
Tracks 33-36 Previously unreleased material from a NYC radio show in 1991
Tracks 37-38 Previously unreleased material from a live show at The Anthrax
in Norwalk, CT 1990

Remastered by Alan Douches at West West Side, NJ
Layout by Jeremy Dean
Photos by: Jeff Ladd, Justin Moulder, Tim Owen, Turning Point, Steve
Silvers, Ethan Gladding, Darren Walters, Dave Grubb, Sue Gendler

1. Behind This Wall
2. Thursday
3. Anxiety Asking
4. Broken
5. Before The Dawn
6. Running in Place
7. Guidance
8. Face Up
9. Turn It Around
10. Shadow of Lies
11. Life Goes On
12. Prophecy
13. Descent
14. Growing Stronger
15. Get it Back
16. Feeding the Fire
17. Insecurity
18. My Turn to Win
19. To Lose
20. The Few and the Proud
21. Empty Promises
22. Never Again
23. Over the Line
24. Turning Point
25. To Lose
26. Face Up
27. Never Again
28. Behind My Back
29. Turning Point
30. Curtain Falls
31. Empty Promises
32. Growing Stronger
33. Down
34. Hollow Inside
35. Unexpressed
36. Undertow
37. Will to Speak
38. Watching it Fall

Turning Point Demo and Live Session Download


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Blogged and Quartered has posted the demo and a live 1991 session on WNYU’s Crucial Chaos show.

[Blogged and Quartered]

The TURNING POINT discography, 1988-1991 is available for purchase via the and also via .

Darren Walters Interviewed on Turning Point History


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Double Cross, the online fanzine dedicated to hardcore, has just published an interview with Jade Tree Co-Owner Darren Walters about Turning Point and his first label Hi-Impact.

[Double Cross]

The TURNING POINT discography, 1988-1991 is available for purchase via the and also via .

Darren Walters – Hi-Impact / Jade Tree Records, shares his Turning Point memories

Hi-Impact and Jade Tree guru Darren Walters reflects on the Hi-Impact days and his memories of Turning Point- Gordo DCXX

How did the idea for Hi-Impact come together? Was TP an idea for the label from its inception, or something that popped up after the label was already formed?

After years of being in bands and playing music, I realized that I may be better suited for life behind the scenes. The idea for starting a label eventually crystallized while I was at a family event where I was talking to my Aunt about how I was thinking about starting a record label, but that I wasn’t sure how to go about doing it. My aunt told me that she thought I would be great at being a business person and basically gave me a pep talk and inspired me to finally get off of my ass. She was the motivation that I needed; someone to believe in me and show me that I could do it. It meant a lot and I immediately started the label after I got home.

I then called up my friend Victor, we became partners, and we started Hi-Impact. We wanted a hard-hitting name and there was this marker sitting in his room that had that wording on it and we loved it. Especially the way "Hi" was spelled. The name struck both of us as really "core" and so that sealed the deal and Hi-Impact was off and running. All we needed was a band!

Once we told our friends that we had started a label, our friend Scott (who was doing Terminal Productions, a tape label that did a bunch of compilations-including one with Pointless) passed us the demo he had gotten because he had worked with Jay previously. In fact, the demo might have even been tacked on to the end of a Pointless demo that Scott had. The important thing is that I recall hearing it for the first time and flipping out. I knew right then and there that this had to be the first record that Victor & I released. We may have even have called the guys up that night-we were that excited about it.

Turning Point at OJ’s with Darren on stage in the background, Photo courtesy of: TP

What specifically was exciting about the TP demo? Did it just seem like another young SE band or something special you knew you had to put out?

The energy, the youthful enthusiasm and Skip’s voice-it had an edge to it that when combined with the music really made the difference between what Turning Point were doing and many of the other bands of the era. That boy could sing! I ąm biased, but that band was something special. They were clearly talented and not some 2nd generation carbon copy youth crew band that could be easily dismissed. I think their impact speaks to that, as well as the songs that they would write later on in their careers.

In 1988, almost everything I listened to in hardcore sounded alike to some degree, so originality was not something that I heard all of the time, but I knew it when I heard it. Turning Point was not only the real deal-something I think they struggled to prove to other NJ/NY bands-but they were intent on making a real go of being original and almost swimming against the tide of the times. As a band the consistently made strides to move forward and certainly argued about doing so internally as they struggled with their growing pains. They also never tried to be something they were not, which to me, was really important and something which fans picked up on. They were five kids from the NJ burbs and despite all of the noise, they never sang about mean streets or hard knocks (and in fact, we joked about the hard shit that we did love all of the time) but instead addressed the shit we did deal with at that time such as white power knuckleheads at shows, the struggles of growing older or relationships as a young adult.

What was your relationship like with each guy from TP? What was the band dynamic as you saw it?

Overall, Turning Point were a fun loving, entertaining and determined bunch of kids. They never let the scene bullshit drag them down and they soldiered forward to really create outstanding music in a generic era of hardcore.

Jay (All Business / Ultimate musician – I remember watching him play the drums and thinking ‘why the hell does this kid play the guitar?’) and Skip (Sarcastic comedian): These two lived down the street from each other and I spent a lot of time at Skip’s house, which was the center of the universe. Things centered around meeting there and typically crashing there as well. There was a lot of sleeping over, watching movies, eating calzones, drinking soda, talking shit and general good times had around their hood.

Steve (Band buddy): I spent a lot of time with Steve. We used to go to a lot of shows together without the other band members and hung out often. This became a problem when the band asked him to leave and I think had some bearing on the band eventually leaving Hi-Impact. I never took sides, but I definitely remained friends with Steve when he was out of the band and from that point on had less and less interaction with the rest of the band.

Nick (The kid with sardonic wit): At the time Nick was in the background more, but as time moved on, Nick moved out of his shell and become more funny and outgoing. Nick struck me as the kid who was along for the ride, but who eventually became a stronger voice within the band. One of the few members I am still in touch with these days. In fact, I have been emailing him the last few minutes.

Ken (The working man): Ken had a job, made a real living and his house was the practice space. He, as the drummer, was the solid one of the band. A good guy that you leaned on when you really needed something done. I recall going over there and spending many hours watching the band develop their new songs and direction. I saw many songs take shape, be played at a show once or twice, and then eventually get dropped.

It was a really interesting place to be, and a great time.

What were your ideas for the 7"? What can you recall about hearing the 7" recording for the first time, as compared to the demo?

To release the most amazing record ever! The record was done at a studio near where I was born and around the corner from my grandmother’s house, so Victor and I attended the sessions and participated (Victor thinks we should have gotten production credits) in the recording process. I recall how while the recording was happening how flabbergasted we both were at how amazing it sounded. It synthesized what we were both thinking about how amazing the band could sound if they were recorded under better than average circumstances. In other words, in a real studio where their nuances could be heard clearly and then not compressed or distorted once transferred onto the vinyl. To this day I ąm proud of the way that the record turned out sonically. Especially for the timeframe of the late 80s when so many awful sounding hardcore 7"s were being released.

To be continued…

IT’S ALWAYS DARKEST…

Think Fast! Records has just released the official vinyl version of the TURNING POINT discography 1988-1991. This double-LP set is the first and only vinyl edition of the CD released by Jade Tree and compliments the CD well for the vinyl lovers and collector nerds in the audience.

For more information, or to purchase this item, please check out the or visit

FRANK ‘SKIP’ CANDELORI OF TURNING POINT FOUND DEAD

On Wednesday, June 19, 2002, Frank ‘Skip’ Candelori, former lead singer of Turning Point, was found dead in his New Jersey home from an apparent drug overdose. A memorial service was held in his hometown on Friday, June 21, 2002, to honor his memory. As the family wishes the details of Skip’s death to remain private, this is all of the information that Jade Tree can offer.

A talented musician, Skip’s involvement in music began in his early teenage years and continued up until his accidental death. Skip played a huge role in the development of the emerging east coast straight edge hardcore scene of the late eighties and early nineties as a member of Turning Point. Turning Point later grew to defy simple categorization as they branched out from New York influenced hardcore to more complicated and emotional music based on Skip’s personal lyrics, which in turn inspired a new generation of reflective hardcore. Skip played a huge part in both Tim and Darren’s lives and our condolences, as well as those of all at Jade Tree, go out to his friends and family.